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Muslim Identity: Shaharukh Khan, Soha Ali khan - with Barkha Dutt
A REALLY GOOD DISCUSSION...WORTH WATCHING
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Dr. Zakir Naik with Shaharukh Khan, Soha Ali khan, karan Johar, Kabir Khan, Maulana Mehmood Madni and with some others invited by NDTV 24 by 7 in the Show of Barkha Dutt on Topic MUSLIM IDENTITY.
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i have Watched a discussion like that with Shah Rukh Khan nd DR ZAKIR NAIK.
Hmmm.we should watch discussions about Practicing Muslims tjat Struggle Everyday to Live As true Muslims n who are Rejected by the Society.
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MANY PEOPLE KEEP GOING ON ABOUT HOW ISLAM IS TARGETED...
IN MANY WAYS IT IS...BUT SO ARE OTHER RELIGIONS.. 
I'V SEEN MANY VIDEOS WHERE PEOPLE CHAT CRAP ABOUT HINDUISM... 
HOW HINDUISM IS A RELIGION OF CRAZY PEOPLE...THEIR IDEA OF HINDUISM STARTS && FINISHES WIT IDOL WORSHIP 
HOW MANY PEOPLE ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND HINDUISM? OR READ ANY SCRIPTURES IN DETAIL?
PEOPLE ASSUME THAT IF YOU PRAY 5 TIMES A DAY OR YOU FOLLOW ISLAM "FULLY" (verse by verse) IT MAKES YOU A BETTER MUSLIM THEN THOSE MUSLIMS WHO DO NOT PRAY 
EVERYONE HAS THEIR OWN WAY OF PRAYING....YOUR RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN GOD AND YOU IS PERSONAL... NOT OTHERS...AN DEFINITELY NOT SOME IDIOT THAT GIVES YOU SOME GUILT TRIP..
...AND IF YOU DON'T FOLLOW ISLAM...THEN IN THE EYES OF SOME YOURE A COMPLETE LOSS AND YOURE SURELY GOING 2 HELL...NICE!  (keep my dinner warm!! )
DISCRIMINATION WORKS BOTH WAYS...... 
IF YOU WANT YOUR BELIEFS TREATED EQUAL...TREAT OTHERS EQUAL...WHETHER YOU FOLLOW IT OR NOT...SIMPLE!
Dr. ZAKIR = A MAN THAT LIVES IN INDIA...BORN AND RAISED....YET IN MOST HIS TALK SHOWS ALL HE DOES IS SLANDER HINDUISM...ALL HE DOES IS DISPLAY HOW HINDUISM IS WRONG AND HOW ISLAM IS RIGHT...HE TWISTS FACTS 2 SUIT HIMSELF....
WHAT GIVES HIM THE RIGHT 2 DO THAT? WHY DOES HE CONSTANTLY ATTACK HINDUISM??? WHEN SOMEONE DOES THAT 2 ISLAM PEOPLE GET UPSET...
YET SO MANY FOLLOW ZAKIR NAIK AND THINK FLOWERS DROP OUT HIS ASS?!
WHY???
HE EATS && LIVES IN INDIA, YET INSTEAD OF TRYING 2 BRING COMMUNITIES TOGETHER...HE SPENDS MOST HIS TIME CAUSING RELIGIOUS TENSION...!
HOW WRONG IS THAT?
NOW ONTO SHAH RUKH KHAN...
IS HE A MUSLIM? YES...
DOES HE FOLLOW ISLAM CORRECTLY? IN MY OPINION NO, BUT THAT IS BETWEEN HIM AND GOD...
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i Disagree. Zakir Naik, is not Dissinh Hinduis all the Time. HE answers Peoples Qstions, Hindus n muslims. He Speaks With Proves. What Ever he says, is justified by Qu'ran Aayat.
They compare both Religions. If he was dissing, talkin Crap, and speaking without proves.
I dont belive any Hindu Believer Would Convert To Islam. N yet Many Do. Subhan'Allah.
Sharukh khan.is he Muslim? Yes. Does he pray? Not realy. Like he said he always have a thought for God.
Iv heard Years back, that Mister SRK, has 2religions, hes Muslim n Hindu? U r not muslim if you belive in more than 1god.
U cant say x is a better muslim thn y or watever.
Thsts btw God n Him n onli Allah can Judge Him.
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i Disagree. Zakir Naik, is not Dissinh Hinduis all the Time. HE answers Peoples Qstions, Hindus n muslims. He Speaks With Proves. What Ever he says, is justified by Qu'ran Aayat.
They compare both Religions. If he was dissing, talkin Crap, and speaking without proves.
I dont belive any Hindu Believer Would Convert To Islam. N yet Many Do. Subhan'Allah.
Sharukh khan.is he Muslim? Yes. Does he pray? Not realy. Like he said he always have a thought for God.
Iv heard Years back, that Mister SRK, has 2religions, hes Muslim n Hindu? U r not muslim if you belive in more than 1god.
U cant say x is a better muslim thn y or watever.
Thsts btw God n Him n onli Allah can Judge Him.
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SO IF I SAT HERE DISPROVING ISLAMIC VERSES ASKING FOR EVIDENCE ...THAT WOULD MAKE IT RIGHT??
MUSLIMS WOULD FEEL HAPPY THAT I AM DISSECTING THEIR BOOK?
I COULD BEHAVE THE SAME AS ZAKIR DOES...AND MANY MUSLIMS WOULD GET UPSET....
I COULD MENTION QUOTES THAT COMPLETELY DEVALUES ISLAM IN SECONDS, IN HOW HINDUISM EXISTED LONG BEFORE ...AND HINDUISM IS THE ULTIMATE RELIGION...ALL OTHER RELIGIONS ARE FALSE...THE ONLY CORRECT PATH IS HINDUISM = THIS IS HOW ZAKIR NAIK OPERATES.
ANYONE CAN SIT AND THROW QUOTES AT SOMEONE 2 DISPROVE ANYTHING...TILL THEY DIG DEEPER.
IS ZAKIR NAIK THE ONLY MAN ALIVE WHO KNOWS EVERYTHING ABOUT HINDUISM?? .... BIT FUNNY DON'T YOU THINK???
OUT OF ALL THE HINDUS COME AND GONE IN THE WORLD, THE ONLY PERSON WITH ALL THE ANSWERS TO TEACH MUSLIMS && HINDUS ABOUT HINDUISM, IS ZAKIR NAIK???
AND WITHOUT ZAKIR NAIK, HINDUS HAVE NO IDEA ABOUT HINDUISM AND REQUIRE ZAKIR NAIKS EXPERT INPUT?
I CAN PROVE 2 YOU THAT MANY OTHER BELIEFS ARE FAKE WITH QUOTES FROM HINDU SCRIPTURES...AND YOUR REACTION WOULD BE:
"BUT NO ITS NOT"
SIMPLE FACT IS...MANY MUSLIMS WHO SUPPORT ZAKIR NAIK ARE UNABLE TO TREAT NON-MUSLIMS EQUAL...YET THEY EXPECTED TO BE TREATED EQUAL.
THIS IS HOW DANGEROUS PEOPLE LIKE ZAKIR NAIK ARE. THEY ARE POISON!
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Originally Posted by *~TendrePoison~*
i Disagree. Zakir Naik, is not Dissinh Hinduis all the Time. HE answers Peoples Qstions, Hindus n muslims. He Speaks With Proves. What Ever he says, is justified by Qu'ran Aayat.
They compare both Religions. If he was dissing, talkin Crap, and speaking without proves.
I dont belive any Hindu Believer Would Convert To Islam. N yet Many Do. Subhan'Allah.
Sharukh khan.is he Muslim? Yes. Does he pray? Not realy. Like he said he always have a thought for God.
Iv heard Years back, that Mister SRK, has 2religions, hes Muslim n Hindu? U r not muslim if you belive in more than 1god.
U cant say x is a better muslim thn y or watever.
Thsts btw God n Him n onli Allah can Judge Him.
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SRK IS A BETTER MUSLIM THEN MOST FAKE MUSLIMS WE COME ACROSS.
WHEN I SAY "FAKE" THOSE WHO ARE BRANDED AS NOT "TRUE MUSLIMS"...
FAIR ENOUGH SRK IS NOT 100% A TRUE MUSLIM, SINCE SRK FOLLOWS A MIXTURE OF TWO RELIGIONS...
BUT ID RATHER BE SURROUNDED BY PEOPLE LIKE HIM, THEN THOSE WHO LOOK DOWN ON YOU CONSIDERING YOU INFERIOR...
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Look, I believe in IsLAM. I would Never Ever Doubt what Ever Is Said or Wriiten in that.
It does not Mean, i do not Respect Hinduism. To Each its Religion. Be tolerant.
Kal, People Do listen To Zakir, some ppl , some non-muslims like him too, n those who dont i understand them. U cant like or be liked by Evrryone.
I have non Muslim mates Aswell.
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Originally Posted by *~TendrePoison~*
Look, I believe in IsLAM. I would Never Ever Doubt what Ever Is Said or Wriiten in that.
It does not Mean, i do not Respect Hinduism. To Each its Religion. Be tolerant.
Kal, People Do listen To Zakir, some ppl , some non-muslims like him too, n those who dont i understand them. U cant like or be liked by Evrryone.
I have non Muslim mates Aswell.
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WHOSE TELLING YOU NOT 2 BELIEVE IN ISLAM????????????????
FOLLOW IT...IT'S YOUR BELIEF SYSTEM...
OTHERS SHOULD BE ALLOWED 2 FOLLOW WHAT THEY DO..WITHOUT SOME IDIOT TRYING 2 SAY THEY ARE WRONG ALL THE TIME...!
HOW MANY PEOPLE LIKE ZAKIR WAFFLE AROUND TELLING OTHERS THAT OTHER RELIGIONS ARE WRONG???? WHO ARE THEY 2 JUDGE??
IF A CHRISTIAN MAN OR HINDU MAN WENT ROUND SAYING:
"ISLAM IS WRONG...IT WILL DRAG YOU 2 HELL"
YOU AND OTHERS WOULD GET ANGRY AND SAY "HATERS OF ISLAM"
BUT ITS FINE FOR YOU 2 JUDGE OTHERS IN WHAT THEY FOLLOW??????
WHICH IS WHAT ZAKIR NAIK DOES.
"HATERS OF HINDUISM"
"HATERS OF CHRISTIANITY"
"HATERS OF SIKHISM"
IT'S NOT ABOUT HAVING NON MUSLIM M8S...I HAVE MUSLIM MATES
I DON'T FOLLOW ISLAM..BUT I DON'T JUDGE THOSE WHO ARE NON-HINDU
EACH 2 HIS OWN FAR AS BELIEFS GO.....
OTHERWISE IT BECOMES RELIGIOUS DISCRIMINATION...
I AM A VICTIM COS PPL CHAT RUBBISH ABOUT WHAT I FOLLOW.....
THIS IS WHAT ZAKIR DOES IN HIS VIDEOS:
- HATING ON MY BELIEFS
- BEING DISRESPECTFUL
- SPREADING LIES
- DISTORTING FACTS
- BEING JUDGMENTAL
- MISQUOTING SCRIPTURES WHICH ARE OLDER THEN ISLAM (fact!!)
HIS DOING ALL THOSE THINGS...
BUT DO I SIT HERE THROWING OLD QUOTES UP TRYING 2 DISPROVE SOMEONE?
NO, I ALLOW THEM TO CONTINUE WITH LIFE...I DON'T FORCE MY BELIEFS ON THEM TRYING TO CONVINCE THEM OF THIS OR THAT...
I LET THEM GET ON WITH IT, TREATING THEM EQUAL...BUT DO THEY DO THAT TOWARDS ME??? NO!
WHY NOT?????
HALF THE THINGS YOU ENJOY IN THIS WORLD ARE MADE BY KAFIRS WITH GOOD OR BAD HEARTS....TV , VIDEO PHONES, MICROWAVES THE LIST IS ENDLESS....
JUST REMEMBER ONE THING...ONLY A KUFFAR CALLS ANOTHER A KUFFAR!
THOSE WHO SEE GOD IN EVERYONE...SEE PEACE
THOSE WHO SEE DIFFERENCES, SEE WAR!!
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Originally Posted by KALKI
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Originally Posted by *~TendrePoison~*
Look, I believe in IsLAM. I would Never Ever Doubt what Ever Is Said or Wriiten in that.
It does not Mean, i do not Respect Hinduism. To Each its Religion. Be tolerant.
Kal, People Do listen To Zakir, some ppl , some non-muslims like him too, n those who dont i understand them. U cant like or be liked by Evrryone.
I have non Muslim mates Aswell.
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WHOSE TELLING YOU NOT 2 BELIEVE IN ISLAM????????????????
FOLLOW IT...IT'S YOUR BELIEF SYSTEM...
OTHERS SHOULD BE ALLOWED 2 FOLLOW WHAT THEY DO..WITHOUT SOME IDIOT TRYING 2 SAY THEY ARE WRONG ALL THE TIME...!
HOW MANY PEOPLE LIKE ZAKIR WAFFLE AROUND TELLING OTHERS THAT OTHER RELIGIONS ARE WRONG???? WHO ARE THEY 2 JUDGE??
IF A CHRISTIAN MAN OR HINDU MAN WENT ROUND SAYING:
"ISLAM IS WRONG...IT WILL DRAG YOU 2 HELL"
YOU AND OTHERS WOULD GET ANGRY AND SAY "HATERS OF ISLAM"
BUT ITS FINE FOR YOU 2 JUDGE OTHERS IN WHAT THEY FOLLOW??????
WHICH IS WHAT ZAKIR NAIK DOES.
"HATERS OF HINDUISM"
"HATERS OF CHRISTIANITY"
"HATERS OF SIKHISM"
IT'S NOT ABOUT HAVING NON MUSLIM M8S...I HAVE MUSLIM MATES
I DON'T FOLLOW ISLAM..BUT I DON'T JUDGE THOSE WHO ARE NON-HINDU
EACH 2 HIS OWN FAR AS BELIEFS GO.....
OTHERWISE IT BECOMES RELIGIOUS DISCRIMINATION...
I AM A VICTIM COS PPL CHAT RUBBISH ABOUT WHAT I FOLLOW.....
THIS IS WHAT ZAKIR DOES IN HIS VIDEOS:
- HATING ON MY BELIEFS
- BEING DISRESPECTFUL
- SPREADING LIES
- DISTORTING FACTS
- BEING JUDGMENTAL
- MISQUOTING SCRIPTURES WHICH ARE OLDER THEN ISLAM (fact!!)
HIS DOING ALL THOSE THINGS...
BUT DO I SIT HERE THROWING OLD QUOTES UP TRYING 2 DISPROVE SOMEONE?
NO, I ALLOW THEM TO CONTINUE WITH LIFE...I DON'T FORCE MY BELIEFS ON THEM TRYING TO CONVINCE THEM OF THIS OR THAT...
I LET THEM GET ON WITH IT, TREATING THEM EQUAL...BUT DO THEY DO THAT TOWARDS ME??? NO!
WHY NOT?????
HALF THE THINGS YOU ENJOY IN THIS WORLD ARE MADE BY KAFIRS WITH GOOD OR BAD HEARTS....TV , VIDEO PHONES, MICROWAVES THE LIST IS ENDLESS....
JUST REMEMBER ONE THING...ONLY A KUFFAR CALLS ANOTHER A KUFFAR!
THOSE WHO SEE GOD IN EVERYONE...SEE PEACE
THOSE WHO SEE DIFFERENCES, SEE WAR!!
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RESPECT THOSE WHO RESPECT AND ARE TOLERANT TOWARDS YOUR RELIGION.
KAL THE LIST IS ENDLESS,YOU DONT HAVE TO SEE WHO MADE IT AND WHO DIDNT, THERE R USEFUL THINGS ND ITS TO MAKE LIFE EASIER, YOUR NOT GONNA JUDGE THE DUDE WHO MADE IT WETHER HES MUSLIM,HINDU OR WOTEVER,WHAT WUD BE JUDGED I THE HERE AFTER IS THE USE U DID OF THE THING? DID U USE EM THINGS WISELY OR NOT?. N ONLI YOU WIL BE BLAMED FOR WHAT U DID NOT THE GUY THAT MADDE IT!!
I WONT SAY THAT ZAKIRS PERFECT DAT HE DOESNT DO ANY SINS OR WOTEVER. EACH OF US TAKE WHAT WE THINK IS CORRECT. if one doesnt wanna FOLLOW HIM DIRECTLY,FOLLLOWS THE QURAN... AND THE HADITHS.
I DONT THINK HE MISQUOTE SCRIPTURES .. HE HAS STUDIED EM HASN IT?well i dono ALLAH KNOW<S BEST I WONT DISCUSS THE SCRIPTURES I HAVE NO CLUE ABOUT.
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Originally Posted by *~TendrePoison~*
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Originally Posted by KALKI
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Originally Posted by *~TendrePoison~*
Look, I believe in IsLAM. I would Never Ever Doubt what Ever Is Said or Wriiten in that.
It does not Mean, i do not Respect Hinduism. To Each its Religion. Be tolerant.
Kal, People Do listen To Zakir, some ppl , some non-muslims like him too, n those who dont i understand them. U cant like or be liked by Evrryone.
I have non Muslim mates Aswell.
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WHOSE TELLING YOU NOT 2 BELIEVE IN ISLAM????????????????
FOLLOW IT...IT'S YOUR BELIEF SYSTEM...
OTHERS SHOULD BE ALLOWED 2 FOLLOW WHAT THEY DO..WITHOUT SOME IDIOT TRYING 2 SAY THEY ARE WRONG ALL THE TIME...!
HOW MANY PEOPLE LIKE ZAKIR WAFFLE AROUND TELLING OTHERS THAT OTHER RELIGIONS ARE WRONG???? WHO ARE THEY 2 JUDGE??
IF A CHRISTIAN MAN OR HINDU MAN WENT ROUND SAYING:
"ISLAM IS WRONG...IT WILL DRAG YOU 2 HELL"
YOU AND OTHERS WOULD GET ANGRY AND SAY "HATERS OF ISLAM"
BUT ITS FINE FOR YOU 2 JUDGE OTHERS IN WHAT THEY FOLLOW??????
WHICH IS WHAT ZAKIR NAIK DOES.
"HATERS OF HINDUISM"
"HATERS OF CHRISTIANITY"
"HATERS OF SIKHISM"
IT'S NOT ABOUT HAVING NON MUSLIM M8S...I HAVE MUSLIM MATES
I DON'T FOLLOW ISLAM..BUT I DON'T JUDGE THOSE WHO ARE NON-HINDU
EACH 2 HIS OWN FAR AS BELIEFS GO.....
OTHERWISE IT BECOMES RELIGIOUS DISCRIMINATION...
I AM A VICTIM COS PPL CHAT RUBBISH ABOUT WHAT I FOLLOW.....
THIS IS WHAT ZAKIR DOES IN HIS VIDEOS:
- HATING ON MY BELIEFS
- BEING DISRESPECTFUL
- SPREADING LIES
- DISTORTING FACTS
- BEING JUDGMENTAL
- MISQUOTING SCRIPTURES WHICH ARE OLDER THEN ISLAM (fact!!)
HIS DOING ALL THOSE THINGS...
BUT DO I SIT HERE THROWING OLD QUOTES UP TRYING 2 DISPROVE SOMEONE?
NO, I ALLOW THEM TO CONTINUE WITH LIFE...I DON'T FORCE MY BELIEFS ON THEM TRYING TO CONVINCE THEM OF THIS OR THAT...
I LET THEM GET ON WITH IT, TREATING THEM EQUAL...BUT DO THEY DO THAT TOWARDS ME??? NO!
WHY NOT?????
HALF THE THINGS YOU ENJOY IN THIS WORLD ARE MADE BY KAFIRS WITH GOOD OR BAD HEARTS....TV , VIDEO PHONES, MICROWAVES THE LIST IS ENDLESS....
JUST REMEMBER ONE THING...ONLY A KUFFAR CALLS ANOTHER A KUFFAR!
THOSE WHO SEE GOD IN EVERYONE...SEE PEACE
THOSE WHO SEE DIFFERENCES, SEE WAR!!
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RESPECT THOSE WHO RESPECT AND ARE TOLERANT TOWARDS YOUR RELIGION.
KAL THE LIST IS ENDLESS,YOU DONT HAVE TO SEE WHO MADE IT AND WHO DIDNT, THERE R USEFUL THINGS ND ITS TO MAKE LIFE EASIER, YOUR NOT GONNA JUDGE THE DUDE WHO MADE IT WETHER HES MUSLIM,HINDU OR WOTEVER,WHAT WUD BE JUDGED I THE HERE AFTER IS THE USE U DID OF THE THING? DID U USE EM THINGS WISELY OR NOT?. N ONLI YOU WIL BE BLAMED FOR WHAT U DID NOT THE GUY THAT MADDE IT!!
I WONT SAY THAT ZAKIRS PERFECT DAT HE DOESNT DO ANY SINS OR WOTEVER. EACH OF US TAKE WHAT WE THINK IS CORRECT. if one doesnt wanna FOLLOW HIM DIRECTLY,FOLLLOWS THE QURAN... AND THE HADITHS.
I DONT THINK HE MISQUOTE SCRIPTURES .. HE HAS STUDIED EM HASN IT?well i dono ALLAH KNOW<S BEST I WONT DISCUSS THE SCRIPTURES I HAVE NO CLUE ABOUT.
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I DONT JUDGE I DONT WANNA JUDGE WHAT THEY FOLLOW.
THEY ARE FREE TO DO WHAT THEY WANT. BUT DOING DAWAH IS NOT WRONG ASWELL,DISCUSSIN RELIGIONS IN A CORRECT N RESPECTFUL WAY, and trying TO ENLIGHTEN PEOPLE,AND PREACH... AINT THAT WHAT ALL THE RELIGIONS DO? preach to get MORE BELIVERS??.. THEY DONT FORCE NO ONE ANYWWY.
I UNDERSTAND YOU@GET UPSET N EVERYTHING I AGREE ....
BUT ONE THING U WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO CHANGE IS PEOPLES MENTALITY
U WIL FIND HATERS IN EACH N EVERY RELIGION.
even tho IT IS SUPPOSED TO SPREAD A MESSAGE OF PEACE,LOVE, nd TOELRANCE.
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