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Armin Navabi vs. Hindu Goddess Kali Controversy


Armin Navabi has caused great outrage among many Hindus by disrespecting the Hindu goddess Kali. He will join Apostate Prophet to discuss this controversy and its impacts.
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Abdul Sameer, Haris Sultan, Apostate Prophet...all the same..

Apostate prophet got roasted by Muhammed Hijab...You don't have to be his fan or follower...
It was deep! AP sat there like a vegetable trying to justify his failure..

You don't even have to like religion, or even Islam to see how AP was exposed ..Sitting there saying "I'll make a video later"

They are feeling butt choked..This is why they are trying so hard to demonise Hindus now by creating a reaction. They want to play the "all religions are bad card"

He could of easily ripped up the Gita (Navabi) as he did with the Quran and Bible..but he chose to sexualize an image






 
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All they know about Hinduism is idol worship and images
The man is full of shit!

Worshiping god is imaginary, but visiting a grave yard and talking to the dead is normal for these fucktards
Yaaaaaaaaaah!! Even if their not religious they bury their dead and suddenly they are christian over night by visiting a crematory , cemetery

I'm not defending people who abuse someones mother, how come they can watch movies with swearing and laugh at "yo momma jokes" then get offended over this?

Oh ghsh, I wrote the same LoL...Ive been replying to this spastic on Aposates channel...Destroyed him on every point but he's still crying like a loser

These athiest are butt hurt so badly...Specially that Abdul Sameer...They left Ishilam, but find it hard to digest that Hinduism is much more advance...I keep spamming his videos with what academics have said...Its obvious they don't like it..When the Q uran was ripped he said it was unrpdocutive, but abusing and making vulgar comments is "productive" towards other comunities?

I left some comments on veedu vids too..They are all the same...Filth bags

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He's the same ex Muslim who said incest is Okay

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The caller needs to understand that what is understandable need not be justified. The bhakts' actions are understandable but unjustified. As adults we have to behave responsibly. What bhakts did also falls under free speech however the response was disproportionate, vile and disgusting. Comparing the bhakts' response with Armin's post is like comparing cursing someone with beating someone up. Both are rude but one is clearly worse than the other. Armin has never demanded for the bhakts' voice to be silenced. He's just highlighting their vile and disgusting behavior to the entire world.


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He's just highlighting their vile and disgusting behavior to the entire world<<Nope...Armin has been exposed for being dirty perve t who gets excited over a cartoon..What a kinda grown man finds a cartoon sxy?



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@Neha Kulkarni many people find cartoons sexy. Many women find it sexy as well. Do you even know what hentai are? Bottom line is that it's free speech. His comments were not a personal attack on anyone. It was a random comment and if people didn't like it, they could have simply blocked him. Any honest guy would admit that the Kali cartoon was sexy.

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@rayan Do you even know what hentai are?<< Add anime p0rn to he list...Is it healthy? So it happens everywhere, is it healthy? No..Its basically children who have not grown up indulging in some comic book fan-tsy sx ....Many of these people live double lives..Even "blow up dolls" are popular LoL, is it healthy? No...So on the one hand you are forni cating, lus ting over imaginative sketches (that is acceptable) LoL but same time, mocking those who follow a certain path who also sketch their version of "reality /spirituality"


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@rayan they could have simply blocked him. A <<So they could have blocked him? But when he received abuse, he decided not to block them but play victim hood?? LoL...Why didn't he block them too? Why didn't he ignore them? If someone is giving you abuse, the smartest thing to do is block them. It was not a random comment, he did it on purpose to create a reaction.



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@Neha Kulkarni he wanted to expose the ugly face of Hindutva and he was successful in his efforts. He could have blocked them but he wanted to bring attention to the issue of Hindutva extremism in India. I don't see the problem with fornication. As long as it isn't harming anyone, it should be alright. Nevertheless that's a different topic. Also it is natural to find that cartoon of Kali sexy. People may not say it but every guy finds that cartoon sexy. He just said it openly. My initial comparison with hentai was flawed because Kali in that cartoon looks like a real beautiful Indian woman (in terms of facial features and looks). It is natural to find that cartoon sexy. Every guy, even the Hindutva trolls find it sexy. They just don't say it and take offense for it. If we are talking about being perverted and vile, photoshopping photos of a dying woman with family members and children mourning over death on porn photos and calling it a gangbang is far worse. I'm surprised you find Armin to be perverted for being honest about a photo and ignore the absolutely disgusting behavior of Hindutva trolls. Do you know that the names of rape victims trend on pornhub India when a rape case gets media attention? What do you think this incident really exposed? The bigoted face of a few Hindutva trolls or Armin?


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@rayan it should be alright. Nevertheless that's a different topic. <<Same topic


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@rayan he wanted to expose the ugly face of Hindutva <Really? Then why have Hindus globally found his method disgusting? Not only Hindus many others? Do they all belong to Hindutva? No...You basically have no understanding of Hindutva



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@rayan Do you know that the names of rape victims trend on pornhub Indi <So when I mention a topic related to this..You change the subject and ignore..but you speedily drift off to another topic? hypocrisy shows LoL



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​ @rayan Sunshine, his dead mother is not my concern..His dead mother means nothing to me..Who is she? Does she influence my life? No. I couldn't careless what someone did...Is it right? No. That is not my problem. He bought that upon himself. Every action has a reaction.



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@rayan We can ask many insensitive question towards him too...For example, How did his mother die? Stage 2 or 3 in cancer? Was she a cripple? Did she choke to death bleeding? Did she rot in her bed? Did Armin bury or cremate his dead mother? Did I abuse his mother? No. Its very easy to ask insensitive questions under the mode of free speech.



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@rayan Do you know that the names of rape victims trend on pornhub Indi <<A very st upid and pathetic analogy...P0 rn sit es and things like this exists world wide...Plenty of sites based in USA, Europe have beastly and all kinds of vile material..Do those people follow religion? No. So why are you focusing on In dia with your ignorance?


[quote @Neha Kulkarni yes you can ask insensitive questions. It comes under free speech. You're triggered that he called your Goddess sexy and then exposed the Hindutva brigade. You wouldn't be so angry if he had called some random Indian actress sexy. You're not angry that he called a cartoon sexy. You're angry that it was your Goddess. If you were, you'd at least express some disgust at the actions of the trolls instead of calling it action-reaction. You agree with the Hindutva ideology so you don't care. Armin is showing the reality of Hindutva extremists to the world so you're angry. Also I have addressed most of the points raised. I don't want to discuss anime culture and stuff with you. It is not hypocrisy to not want to discuss every single issue. That would be going off topic (which we were initially discussing). It's hypocrisy to call the actions of Hindutva brigade targeting Armin action-reaction while calling Armin a pervert. To call an obviously sexy cartoon sexy is not being vile or perverted, it's being honest.[/quote]


You wouldn't be so angry if he had called some random Indian actress sexy. << Why would i? Duh ...
What he has done has no effect on me, Him calling "kali maa" sxy does not bother me one bit...Do I find it distasteful? Yup! Am I annoyed? No...Bcoz not him or you can alter the fact that many people worship her.

Sxualising any women as a sx object is not nice. The fact that he lusts over a sketch shows how re tarded he is.

[quote @Neha KulkarniI don't want to discuss anime culture and stuff with you <<<Same thing LoL...If a man can get aroused or find a cartoon sxy it shows how low and dysfunctional his brain is LoL
If an image of a goddess is fake
then so are anime an htai p0ro characters LoL..None of these things are "real "
These are pictures and paintings nothing else.
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you were, you'd at least express some disgust at the actions of the trolls instead of calling it action-reaction <<<I am not responsible for the trolls. So why should I care what they say or do? Does a Hindu script instruct them to behave that way? No. So what exactly have they been exposed about? LoL
They are behaving according to their own characteristics.
Show me a verse in any Hindu scripture which has told them to behave that way? Go on?
This is why what you say has no impact...You people have proven nothing LoL
There is no blasphemy in vedic scriptures.

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Moreover your initial comment went "this whole incident exposed Armin's perversion". Actually this whole incident exposed the Hindutva trolls' << You've still not grasped the situation...LoL
There is no Hindu book or scripture which dictates blasphemy laws...If been bans are imposed ? So what? Again, what has that got to do with Vedic scriptures? Nothing. If eating beef offends the majority of Hindus, and they elected for such a party , that enables such laws..Why are you crying? When you become a majority you can remove the ban We don't need atheism...If your fond of atheism, then move where you are happy...Why are you enforcing your atheistic beliefs on us? Do we tell you people to accept god? NO..So why are you trying to tell us what to not follow?
whole incident exposed Armin's perversion <LoL A grown man who finds a cartoon sxy is definitely a pervert

@Neha Kulkarni A grown man who finds a woman sexy is not a pervert but a grown man who finds a cartoon (in which the woman has the features of a real Indian woman) sexy is a pervert according to you apparently (or am I wrong?) That's ridiculous. Those features are what people find attractive. So if they are present in a cartoon, obviously people will find it sexy. Attraction towards the opposite sex isn't a rational process guided by reason. Moreover calling the picture sexy doesn't necessarily mean that he was aroused by it.

@rayan A grown man who finds a woman sexy is not a pervert but a grown man who finds a cartoon (in which the woman has the features of a real Indian woman) sexy is a pervert according to you apparently << sxualising any female equals objectify n them is cheap ..But if it was a human woman, its understandable..Bcoz, the person is in-front of them (it does not justify their pervert actions) ..it is not ima gination..But a real life person..excitement over a cartoon is plain sadistic and perverted

@ Moreover calling the picture sexy doesn't necessarily mean that he was aroused by it. << If you find something sxy it simply means you find something sxually attractive...Are you going to call a picture of a apple sxy? No?..Why? Bcoz an apple has nothing sxual ly appealing about it...LoL ...Brainwaves automatically decipher what you are attracted to, Armins brainwave found a cartoon sxy LoL...Where as Hindus view the same painting in a spiritual and respectful way...So now ask yourself, who is the pervert?? LoL..You have been destroyed with logic my friend

[quote @Neha Kulkarni with experience you can judge certain features in a picture to be sexy without necessarily being aroused by it. It's like "beauty". I need not be mesmerized by the beauty of a great painting to judge it to be beautiful. Being "sexually aroused" is a process that doesn't involve reason or intuition just like being "mesmerized" by a painting. Judging a painting to be "beautiful" is a process which involves reason and intuition just like finding a picture sexy. Finding something sexy and being aroused are two different things and neither one implies the other.
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@rayan with experience you can judge certain features in a picture to be sexy without necessarily being aroused < <<yes I agree, you can admire or find something attractive...You can look at a flower or a person dressed up and think "wow that looks pretty"...But again you fail...What Armin called sxy was a cartoon, a sketch..Something drawn by hand not a photograph..something that is not even real..A picture drawn by someones imagination..Lets be totally blunt..No one till this day living has seen "Kaali maa" right?"
So the image illustrated , is that even her? is that how she looks in the cartoon? I highly doubt it!
So again, what kinda freak finds cartoons sxy?



@rayan Previously you wrote many people find Hentai p0rn or whatever sxy...
Many people find "beastily sx" OK..Many (1,000 of) people even enjoy wife swapping..True?
Just bcoz few 1,000 people enjoy indulging in twisted things, does that make it accept able for a grown man to find a cartoon sxy?

Shall I tell you why your argument flops? Bcoz for the past 5,000 years..H indus look at that simple painting and see "mother hood", but along comes an ex -mullah, who thinks with his pen is and finds a cartoonist
sed picture sxy...He felt the need to sxualise a cartoon...When you use the term sxy , you are sxualising whatever it is...
It means your mind is fixated on s ex ..He could have easily said "what a beautiful or stunning picture" if he admired something, but he chose the word sxy...
Use your brain for a second...if you remove the word "y" from sxy" what do you have? The word sxy exists, bcoz of the word sx. ..If you type sxy in too google? Does it talk of admiration or beauty? No...You simply stumble upon half naked things..Do you even understand what the word means?

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The caller needs to understand that what is understandable need not be justified. The bhakts' actions are understandable but unjustified. As adults we have to behave responsibly. What bhakts did also falls under free speech however the response was disproportionate, vile and disgusting. Comparing the bhakts' response with Armin's post is like comparing cursing someone with beating someone up. Both are rude but one is clearly worse than the other. Armin has never demanded for the bhakts' voice to be silenced. He's just highlighting their vile and disgusting behavior to the entire world.


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He's just highlighting their vile and disgusting behavior to the entire world<<Nope...Armin has been exposed for being dirty perve t who gets excited over a cartoon..What a kinda grown man finds a cartoon sxy?






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@rayan Do you even know what hentai are?<< Add anime p0rn to he list...Is it healthy? So it happens everywhere, is it healthy? No..Its basically children who have not grown up indulging in some comic book fan-tsy sx ....Many of these people live double lives..Even "blow up dolls" are popular LoL, is it healthy? No...So on the one hand you are forni cating, lus ting over imaginative sketches (that is acceptable) LoL but same time, mocking those who follow a certain path who also sketch their version of "reality /spirituality"


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@rayan they could have simply blocked him. A <<So they could have blocked him? But when he received abuse, he decided not to block them but play victim hood?? LoL...Why didn't he block them too? Why didn't he ignore them? If someone is giving you abuse, the smartest thing to do is block them. It was not a random comment, he did it on purpose to create a reaction.



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@Neha Kulkarni he wanted to expose the ugly face of Hindutva and he was successful in his efforts. He could have blocked them but he wanted to bring attention to the issue of Hindutva extremism in India. I don't see the problem with fornication. As long as it isn't harming anyone, it should be alright. Nevertheless that's a different topic. Also it is natural to find that cartoon of Kali sexy. People may not say it but every guy finds that cartoon sexy. He just said it openly. My initial comparison with hentai was flawed because Kali in that cartoon looks like a real beautiful Indian woman (in terms of facial features and looks). It is natural to find that cartoon sexy. Every guy, even the Hindutva trolls find it sexy. They just don't say it and take offense for it. If we are talking about being perverted and vile, photoshopping photos of a dying woman with family members and children mourning over death on porn photos and calling it a gangbang is far worse. I'm surprised you find Armin to be perverted for being honest about a photo and ignore the absolutely disgusting behavior of Hindutva trolls. Do you know that the names of rape victims trend on pornhub India when a rape case gets media attention? What do you think this incident really exposed? The bigoted face of a few Hindutva trolls or Armin?


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@rayan it should be alright. Nevertheless that's a different topic. <<Same topic


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@rayan he wanted to expose the ugly face of Hindutva <Really? Then why have Hindus globally found his method disgusting? Not only Hindus many others? Do they all belong to Hindutva? No...You basically have no understanding of Hindutva



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@rayan Do you know that the names of rape victims trend on pornhub Indi <So when I mention a topic related to this..You change the subject and ignore..but you speedily drift off to another topic? hypocrisy shows LoL



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​ @rayan Sunshine, his dead mother is not my concern..His dead mother means nothing to me..Who is she? Does she influence my life? No. I couldn't careless what someone did...Is it right? No. That is not my problem. He bought that upon himself. Every action has a reaction.



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@rayan We can ask many insensitive question towards him too...For example, How did his mother die? Stage 2 or 3 in cancer? Was she a cripple? Did she choke to death bleeding? Did she rot in her bed? Did Armin bury or cremate his dead mother? Did I abuse his mother? No. Its very easy to ask insensitive questions under the mode of free speech.



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@rayan Do you know that the names of rape victims trend on pornhub Indi <<A very st upid and pathetic analogy...P0 rn sit es and things like this exists world wide...Plenty of sites based in USA, Europe have beastly and all kinds of vile material..Do those people follow religion? No. So why are you focusing on In dia with your ignorance?


[quote @Neha Kulkarni yes you can ask insensitive questions. It comes under free speech. You're triggered that he called your Goddess sexy and then exposed the Hindutva brigade. You wouldn't be so angry if he had called some random Indian actress sexy. You're not angry that he called a cartoon sexy. You're angry that it was your Goddess. If you were, you'd at least express some disgust at the actions of the trolls instead of calling it action-reaction. You agree with the Hindutva ideology so you don't care. Armin is showing the reality of Hindutva extremists to the world so you're angry. Also I have addressed most of the points raised. I don't want to discuss anime culture and stuff with you. It is not hypocrisy to not want to discuss every single issue. That would be going off topic (which we were initially discussing). It's hypocrisy to call the actions of Hindutva brigade targeting Armin action-reaction while calling Armin a pervert. To call an obviously sexy cartoon sexy is not being vile or perverted, it's being honest.



You wouldn't be so angry if he had called some random Indian actress sexy. << Why would i? Duh ...
What he has done has no effect on me, Him calling "kali maa" sxy does not bother me one bit...Do I find it distasteful? Yup! Am I annoyed? No...Bcoz not him or you can alter the fact that many people worship her.

Sxualising any women as a sx object is not nice. The fact that he lusts over a sketch shows how re tarded he is.

[quote @Neha KulkarniI don't want to discuss anime culture and stuff with you <<<Same thing LoL...If a man can get aroused or find a cartoon sxy it shows how low and dysfunctional his brain is LoL
If an image of a goddess is fake
then so are anime an htai p0ro characters LoL..None of these things are "real "
These are pictures and paintings nothing else.
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you were, you'd at least express some disgust at the actions of the trolls instead of calling it action-reaction <<<I am not responsible for the trolls. So why should I care what they say or do? Does a Hindu script instruct them to behave that way? No. So what exactly have they been exposed about? LoL
They are behaving according to their own characteristics.
Show me a verse in any Hindu scripture which has told them to behave that way? Go on?
This is why what you say has no impact...You people have proven nothing LoL
There is no blasphemy in vedic scriptures.

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Moreover your initial comment went "this whole incident exposed Armin's perversion". Actually this whole incident exposed the Hindutva trolls' << You've still not grasped the situation...LoL
There is no Hindu book or scripture which dictates blasphemy laws...If been bans are imposed ? So what? Again, what has that got to do with Vedic scriptures? Nothing. If eating beef offends the majority of Hindus, and they elected for such a party , that enables such laws..Why are you crying? When you become a majority you can remove the ban We don't need atheism...If your fond of atheism, then move where you are happy...Why are you enforcing your atheistic beliefs on us? Do we tell you people to accept god? NO..So why are you trying to tell us what to not follow?
whole incident exposed Armin's perversion <LoL A grown man who finds a cartoon sxy is definitely a pervert

@Neha Kulkarni A grown man who finds a woman sexy is not a pervert but a grown man who finds a cartoon (in which the woman has the features of a real Indian woman) sexy is a pervert according to you apparently (or am I wrong?) That's ridiculous. Those features are what people find attractive. So if they are present in a cartoon, obviously people will find it sexy. Attraction towards the opposite sex isn't a rational process guided by reason. Moreover calling the picture sexy doesn't necessarily mean that he was aroused by it.

@rayan A grown man who finds a woman sexy is not a pervert but a grown man who finds a cartoon (in which the woman has the features of a real Indian woman) sexy is a pervert according to you apparently << sxualising any female equals objectify n them is cheap ..But if it was a human woman, its understandable..Bcoz, the person is in-front of them (it does not justify their pervert actions) ..it is not ima gination..But a real life person..excitement over a cartoon is plain sadistic and perverted

@ Moreover calling the picture sexy doesn't necessarily mean that he was aroused by it. << If you find something sxy it simply means you find something sxually attractive...Are you going to call a picture of a apple sxy? No?..Why? Bcoz an apple has nothing sxual ly appealing about it...LoL ...Brainwaves automatically decipher what you are attracted to, Armins brainwave found a cartoon sxy LoL...Where as Hindus view the same painting in a spiritual and respectful way...So now ask yourself, who is the pervert?? LoL..You have been destroyed with logic my friend

[quote @Neha Kulkarni with experience you can judge certain features in a picture to be sexy without necessarily being aroused by it. It's like "beauty". I need not be mesmerized by the beauty of a great painting to judge it to be beautiful. Being "sexually aroused" is a process that doesn't involve reason or intuition just like being "mesmerized" by a painting. Judging a painting to be "beautiful" is a process which involves reason and intuition just like finding a picture sexy. Finding something sexy and being aroused are two different things and neither one implies the other.
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@rayan with experience you can judge certain features in a picture to be sexy without necessarily being aroused < <<yes I agree, you can admire or find something attractive...You can look at a flower or a person dressed up and think "wow that looks pretty"...But again you fail...What Armin called sxy was a cartoon, a sketch..Something drawn by hand not a photograph..something that is not even real..A picture drawn by someones imagination..Lets be totally blunt..No one till this day living has seen "Kaali maa" right?"
So the image illustrated , is that even her? is that how she looks in the cartoon? I highly doubt it!
So again, what kinda freak finds cartoons sxy?



@rayan Previously you wrote many people find Hentai p0rn or whatever sxy...
Many people find "beastily sx" OK..Many (1,000 of) people even enjoy wife swapping..True?
Just bcoz few 1,000 people enjoy indulging in twisted things, does that make it accept able for a grown man to find a cartoon sxy?

Shall I tell you why your argument flops? Bcoz for the past 5,000 years..H indus look at that simple painting and see "mother hood", but along comes an ex -mullah, who thinks with his pen is and finds a cartoonist
sed picture sxy...He felt the need to sxualise a cartoon...When you use the term sxy , you are sxualising whatever it is...
It means your mind is fixated on s ex ..He could have easily said "what a beautiful or stunning picture" if he admired something, but he chose the word sxy...
Use your brain for a second...if you remove the word "y" from sxy" what do you have? The word sxy exists, bcoz of the word sx. ..If you type sxy in too google? Does it talk of admiration or beauty? No...You simply stumble upon half naked things..Do you even understand what the word means?

Two people look at the same painting, one group displays respect towards a female painting
the other (navbi) displays lust
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Admiring v sexy

What a dumb fuck!






 
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