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An Article by Illias Suttar

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The facts mentioned in this article, which have embarrassed Qadianis during the discussions, are taken from the following books of Mirza Sahib:

1- Masih Hindustan Mein

2- Chasma-e-Masihi

3- Anjam-e-Atham


Main Article

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad rejected the fundamental Muslim doctrine of the second coming of Hazrat Isa ibne Maryam. Instead, he claimed that Hazrat Isa had died his natural death and even claimed to have located his grave in Khanyar Street, Srinagar, Kashmir. Mirza Sahib wrote a book "Jesus in India" where he gave a detailed account of what he claimed to have actually happened at the cross. According to him Jesus was put to the cross by the Jews on Friday; Jesus fainted and Jews thought that he had died. He was buried; but three days later, he regained consciousness and came out of the grave. He was 33 years old at that time. He met his disciples and secretly migrated to India, where he died at the age of 120 years. Let us have a look at the following extracts from this book:

"Hence, I shall prove in this book that Jesus (Peace be upon him) did not die on the cross neither did he go up to the heavens nor it should ever be hoped that he will return to the earth from the heavens; rather, he died at the age of 120 years in Srinagar in Kashmir, and his grave is in the Khanyar Region of Srinagar." (Maseeh Hindustan Mein, (Jesus in India) Roohani Khazain, vol.15, p.14)

"Authentic narrations of hadith prove that our holy Prophet (pbuh) said in the person of Jesus two such qualities were combined which were not present in any other prophet. Firstly, he lived his full life, i.e. he was alive for 125 years. Secondly, he toured most of the parts of the world...now it is obvious if he had ascended to heavens at the age of only 33 years, then the tradition of 125 years would not have been correct, neither he could have toured at such a young age of 33. These traditions are not only mentioned in the authentic and ancient books of hadith, but they are so popular among all the sects of Muslims that none can be imagined more famous." (Maseeh Hindustan Mein {Jesus in India}, Roohani Khazain, vol. 15, pp. 55-56)



Christian Era (AD) begins with the birth of Hazrat Isa ibne Maryam (Jesus) in 1 AD. Hazrat Isa, according to Mirza Sahib, died at the age of 120 years, meaning 120 AD. Now, let us examine the following extract from "Anjam-e-Atham", written by Mirza Sahib:


"The Holy Quran clearly says that the Masih was lifted to the heavens after his death. Therefore his descent is symbolic and not real. And in the verse 'Falamma Tawaffeteni' it has been clearly manifested that death of Hazrat Isa (pbuh) has already taken place. Because the meaning of the verse is that the Christians will go astray after the death of Hazrat Isa (pbuh) and not during his lifetime. So if we assume that Hazrat Isa (pbuh) is not yet dead, then we will have to agree that the Christians are not yet digressed, and this is absolutely false. Rather the verse is saying that the Christians remained faithful only until the life-time of Hazrat Isa (pbuh). From this it becomes known that corruption had already begun during the time of Disciples. If the period of the Disciples had been such that the Christians had still been on right path, then in this verse Allah would not have linked it with the life-time of Hazrat Isa (pbuh) only, but would have included the life time of the disciples as well. Thus at this juncture a very good point of the period of corruption in Christianity is illustrated and which is that IN TRUTH, during the time of the Disciples themselves, the seeds of SHIRK (associating partner with God) were sown in Christianity. (Anjam-e-Atham, Roohani Khazain, vol. 11, p.321)



The important points from the above extracts are:

1. He asserts that Christians were on right path only during the life time of Hazrat Isa.

2. He states that Hazrat Isa was not made God or son of God during his life time.

3. Seeds of SHIRK (Trinity) were sown after the death of Hazrat Isa. During the life time of Hazrat Isa, there was no possibility of such a digression. Mirza Ghulam Ahmed is quoting the verse "Falamma Tawaffeteni" (5:117) from Quran, implying that Allah is guaranteeing protection from such corruption (Shirk i.e. Trinity) during the life of Hazrat Isa only.

Since Mirza Sahib has stated in his book "Jesus in India" that Hazrat Isa died in 120 AD, the seeds of association of Partners with Allah (i.e. Trinity) could not have been planted before 120 AD. This means that Hazrat Isa was made God and son of God only after the year 120 A.D. Before 120 A.D., not even one single individual could have held the belief that Hazrat Isa is God or son of God.

Thus, the year of 120 A.D. became a turning point. (Chasma-e-Maseehi, Roohani Khazain, vol. 20, p.375)

"And in the very first instance, he (Paul) implanted the bad seedling of Trinity in Damascus. And this Pauline Trinity started from Damascus. It is towards this that hadith Shareef has hinted that the future Maseeh will descend on the eastern side of Damascus." (Chasma-e-Maseehi, Roohani Khazain, vol. 20, p.377)

In this book, Chasma-e-Maseehi, Mirza Sahib has clearly stated that St. Paul was responsible for the doctrine of Holy Trinity and thus turning Hazrat Isa into God. It is a well known fact that St. Paul died in 64 AD or 67 AD. The book 'The 100' gives the year of his death as 64 AD. Encyclopaedia of Religion and Ethics says:

"That he suffered martyrdom at Rome there can be no doubt...the date will lie between A.D. 64 and 67, most probably nearer the former than the later limit." (Encyclopaedia, vol. 9, p.694)



Final Arguments
1. In the book "Jesus in India", according to Mirza Sahib, Hazrat Isa died in 120 AD.

2. In the book "Anjam-e-Atham", Mirza Sahib has clearly stated that the seeds of Trinity were not sown until 120 A.D.

3. In the book "Anjam-e-Atham", Mirza Sahib has clearly said that St. Paul made Hazrat Isa God.

4. Paul died in 64 or 65 A.D. where as Hazrat Isa died in 120 A.D. Therefore Paul died at least 55 years before Hazrat Isa. (Jesus)

5. Since Paul must have given the doctrine of Trinity during his life time, this means the Hazrat Isa was made God at least 55 years before his own death. In other words, by 65 A.D. Hazrat Isa was made God/Son of God while he died 55 years later in 120 A.D.

6. While he (Jesus) was alive in Kashmir, he was being worshipped as God in Palestine.

7. Thus Mirza Sahib's commentary on the Holy Quran's verse 5:117 (Falamma Tawaffetenni) in his book "Anjam-e-Atham", that Christians made Hazrat Isa God after the death of Hazrat Isa in 120 A.D., becomes absolutely wrong.


Is this a small mistake for a man claiming to have been divinely ordained to be Messiah, Mahdi and a Prophet? Such a grievous error? So obviously and utterly wrong! So conclusively wrong!

On Page 135 of his book "Anjam Atham", Mirza Ghulam Ahmed says:

"If Jesus is alive in the heavens, then the Christians must be on the right path (on earth)".

Will the Qadianis / Ahmadis reflect?

(Please see point no. 6 above.)

If Mirza Sahib were alive and this question had been put to him, could he have said: "I am a human being and I can make mistakes"? Mirza Sahib had claimed help of Allah in these arguments. Can Allah be wrong? No! Only the claim of Mirza Sahib is wrong. If he can be wrong in one thing, what proof is there that he is not wrong in other things? The reason for Mirza Saheb's entire exercise of trying to prove that Hazrat Isa (pbuh) had died was to establish his own claim of being the Promised Messiah and Mahdi. His argument was that, since Hazrat Isa has died, he will not return, as that would be against the principles of Allah. Thus, someone else will have to take up the role of Hazrat Isa and that someone is none other than Mirza Sahib himself! However, the above arguments have proven conclusively that Mirza Ghulam could not substantiate his claim of being Imam Mahdi and the Promised Messiah. Therefore, he is neither Imam Mahdi nor the Promised messiah. As a corollary, he is not a Prophet, because a true Prophetwill not make a false claim.


Another Interesting Point
The Holy Quran printed in 1969 by Ahmadis/Qadianis Page 276, Commentary no. 814 verse 118 of Sura Al-Maidah (1st Edition) under the auspices of Hadrat Mirza Nasir Ahmad, Head of the Ahmadiyyah Movement in Islam:


"As long as Jesus was alive, he kept a CAREFUL WATCH over his followers AND SAW TO IT THAT THEY DID NOT DEVIATE FROM THE RIGHT PATH,,,,, but he did not know how they behaved and what false doctrines they held after his death. Now, as his followers have gone astray, it conclusively follows that Jesus is dead, for, as the verse points out, it was after his death that he was to be worshipped as God."
This is in sharp contrast with my challenging point of seed sowing of Trinity before St. Paul’s Death in 65 A.D., i.e., 55 years before the death of Hazrat Isa (A.S.) in 120 A.D.



Observation
Jesus secretly migrated to India, lived there for 87 more years, and died at the age of 120 in Srinagar, Kashmir. He kept no contact with the people of Palestine for these 87 years. People in Palestine did not know that Hazrat Isa was alive in Kashmir and Hazrat Isa did not know that the people in Palestine had begun to worship him as God and son of God. Therefore, (according to Qadiani claims) in the original land (Palestine) where he was sent as Messenger and where he was made God and son of God, he kept careful watch only till the age of 33 and for the remaining 87 years of his life he kept no watch over them at all! What a glaring mistake (in tafseer)!


Remember: All this is Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani's assertions and we have only his words for them. Will the Qadianis, his followers, KINDLY CLARIFY THE ABOVE POINTS OR RECTIFY THEIR BELIEF?


May Allah help them to understand what is right and what is wrong and give them the courage to follow the right path. Ameen.


All praise to Allah. His Love and Peace be upon His Noble Prophet, Hazrat Muhammad and upon His family and Companions.





More Contradictions
I wish Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Sahib were Alive!

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad of Qadian claimed to be Imam Mahdi and Promised Messiah, Two in One. It is an accepted Muslim doctrine that Hazrat Isa (Jesus) (pbuh) will descend from heavens and will help Imam Mahdi in the propagation of Islam and fill the world with justice. When people asked Mirza Ghulam about Jesus, the son of Mary, Mirza Sahib replied that Jesus will not descend from heavens because he never went to heavens; rather he went to Kashmir, where he died at the age of 120! In support of his claim, Mirza Sahib wrote a book called 'Messiah in India (Maseeh in Hindustan)'.


QURAN SAYS CELIBACY NOT PRESCRIBED IN CHRISTIANITY, BUT MIRZA SAHIB SAYS THE OPPOSITE.
Mirza Sahib says:

"AND JUST AS INJEEL HAS PREACHED CELIBACY, SIMILARLY IN BUDDHA'S TEACHINGS IT IS DESIRED; and just as an earthquake came on putting the Jesus to the cross, similarly it is written that an earthquake came on the death of Buddha. Thus the main reason for all such similarities is that out of good fortune for the Buddhists, Maseeh came to Hindustan and stayed for a long time amongst Buddhists and they received detailed knowledge on his life and his preachings. Consequently it was inevitable that a great part of that teaching and ceremonials should have found its way into Buddhists records for Jesus was respected and taken for the Buddha by the Buddhists These people therefore recorded his (Jesus’) sayings in their books and ascribed them to the Buddha." (Maseeh Hindustan Mein, Roohani Khazain, vol.15, P.78)

On the other hand, the Holy Quran says (57:27) that monasticism was invented by Christians. Monasticism includes all ways of detaching oneself from mankind, specially state of celibacy:



"Then We caused Our messengers to follow in their footsteps; and We caused Jesus, son of Mary, to follow, and gave him the Gospel, and placed compassion and mercy in the hearts of those who followed him. But monasticism they invented - We ordained it not for them - only seeking Allah's pleasure, and they observed it not with right observance. So, We give those of them who believed their reward, but many of them are evil-livers." (al-Quran 57:27)

But contrary to this verse, Mirza Sahib says that Hazrat Isa (pbuh) preached the doctrine of Chastity and Celibacy. Who is to be believed? The Holy Quran or the word of Mirza Ghulam?

Hazrat Isa pbuh - Prophet for Bani Israel or Prophet for Buddhists?

Bagwa Matteyya, Whose Other Name Was Maseeh came to this land, because the failure of a prophecy makes that religion bogus." (Maseeh in Hindustan, Roohani Khazain, vol 15, p.84)

"Every BUDDHIST must necessarily profess the belief that five hundred years after the Buddha, the Bagwa (white) Metteyya did appear in their land." (Maseeh in Hindustan, Roohani Khazain, vol. 15, p.92)

"There can be no doubt that he came in the colours of Buddha and the Book of Oldenburg with reference to Buddha's Book, Lkavati Sutta, it is written that the followers of Buddha used to console themselves with the hope of future that they will achieve the fruits of salvation by becoming the follower of Metteyya. i.e. they had confidence that Metteyya will appear among them and they will attain salvation through him, because the words in which Buddha had given them the hope of Metteyya they were clearly proving that his followers will meet Metteyya. Now with this statement of this book, confidence is generated in the heart that God had created means of their guidance from both sides...and no one can doubt that those moral teachings and spiritual ways which were established by Buddha, the teachings of Hazrat Maseeh have regenerated them in this world." (Maseeh in India, Roohani Khazain vol. 15 pp. 81-82)


How could Hazrat Isa (pbuh) go to preach among non-Bani Israel on the basis of divine revelation of Buddha? Is this not against our and your faith which states that Hazrat Isa (PBUH) was sent to Bani Israel only? To further clarify that Hazrat Isa (pbuh) went to all Buddhists whether they were Israelites or not, Mirza Sahib quotes Buddha as saying that Hazrat Isa (pbuh) will come from outside to the land of Prophecy, Magadh, in which the people were dark. And Buddha himself was dark. And since all the Buddhists are included in this prophecy, common sense says that non-Israelites are also included, since all Buddhists were not Israelites.

Gospel of Barnabas and Mirza Ghulam Ahmad's Ignorance
Mirza Sahib says:

"After all that has been stated, it should be kept in mind that the Gospel of Barnabas, which must be available in the British Museum, it is stated that Jesus was not crucified nor did he die on the Cross. Now we can very well say though this book is not included in the Gospels and has been rejected summarily, yet there is no doubt that it is an ancient book and it belongs to the period in which the other Gospels were written. Is it not open to us to regard this ancient book as a book of history of ancient times and make use of it as a book of history?" (Masseh in Hindustan, Roohani Khazain, vol. 15, p.21)

Perhaps Mirza Sahib did not read the Gospel of Barnabas himself, for in the Bible of Barnabas, it is CLEARLY MENTIONED that Hazrat Muhammad (SAAW) will be the last Prophet, and only false Prophets will come after him. Please see the following extract from the Bible of Barnabas:



"Isa (pbuh) said in that Messenger's coming who will wipe out all false ideas about me. His religion will spread all over the earth. Sardar Kahin asked: After the coming of the Messenger of God will more Prophets come? Isa(pbuh) said: After him not true Prophet will come. But many false Prophets will come." (Gospel of Barnabas, Urdu Edition, p. 143)

"Then the disciples asked: O Master, who is that man who you mention will come to earth? With great happiness Isa (pbuh) replied: He is Muhammad (SAAW), Messenger of Allah. When he will come, just as rain brings out fruits from earth when there has been no rain for a long time, in the same way with the unlimited Mercy and Blessings with which he will come, he will be the cause of many good and virtuous deeds." (Gospel of Barnabas, p.228, Urdu Version)

Mirza Sahib admits that the gospel of Barnabas is an ancient historical document, written at the same time as other Gospels. He presents one of its statements to support his claim. But what he didn't know was that it not only mentions the coming of Hazrat Muhammad (SAAW), but also the finality of his Prophethood or did he? If he had, what right did Mirza Ghulam have to claim that he is a Prophet? Why did he take one statement as a proof and ignored the other one. Perhaps he had never read the Gospel!

Is Adam (pbuh) still alive? Did Mirza Sahib die at the age of 30?
Mirza Basheeruddin Mehmood, son of Mirza Ghulam Ahmad and the 2nd Khalifa of Ahmadis / Qadianis, wrote a book called Da’awat-ul-Ameer (Invitation of Ameer). Following is a quotation from this book. (Page 17)

“There is another important statement by the Holy Prophet. During his last illness, the Holy Prophet said to his daughter Fatima: ‘Once a year Gabriel used to recite the Quran to me. This year he recited twice. He also told me that every succeeding Prophet has lived upto half the age of his predecessor. HE TOLD ME THAT JESUS, SON OF MARY, LIVED TO 120 YEARS. THEREFORE, I THINK, I MAY LIVE TO ABOUT 60 YEARS.”

Mirza Basheruddin Mehmood gives the following explanation of the above statement:

“The statement is an inspired one. The Holy Prophet does not say anything on his own but reports what he received from Gabriel, the angel of revelation. The important part of the statement is that Jesus lived to 120 years. According to the New Testament records, Jesus was about 32 or 33 years old when the event of the Cross took place and Jesus “ascended” to Heaven. If Jesus has really ‘ascended’ his age up to the time of the Holy Prophet comes to about 600 years, not 120. If what Gabriel told Holy Prophet is true, then Holy Prophet should have lived for at least 300 years. But he lived only for 63 years. Yet, according to Gabriel Jesus lived for 120 years. This important statement by the Holy Prophet proves that to think that Jesus is alive is against the teaching of Holy Prophet, against what was revealed to him by God. In view of all this, how can we be persuaded to believe that Jesus is alive? How can we deny anything which the Holy Prophet has taught so clearly?” [Invitation to Ahmadiyyat (Da’awat-ul-Ameer), p.17]

Now in the light of above statement, if what Mirza Basheer has written is true then let us very quickly calculate the age of some Prophets. Although there have been 124,000 of them, we will just take a few famous ones. We come to the following conclusion:-
Hazrat Adam (pbuh)= 122880 years old
Hazrat Sheesh (pbuh)= 61440 years old
Hazrat Noah (pbuh)= 30720 years old
Hazrat Abraham (pbuh)= 15360 years old
Hazrat Ishmael (pbuh)= 7680 years old
Hazrat Jacob (pbuh)= 3840 years old
Hazrat Joseph (pbuh)= 1920 years old
Hazrat Moses (pbuh)= 960 years old
Hazrat David (pbuh)= 480 years old
Hazrat Solomon (pbuh)= 240 years old
Hazrat Jesus (pbuh)= 120 years old
Hazrat Muhammad (pbuh)= 60 years old

Based on this formula, some of the future prophets (if at all there are some, and there should be at least three of them if you accept the Qadiani interpretation of the verse of KhatmeNabuwwat) will have following ages:

· Mirza Ghulam Ahmed Qadiani ??? 30 years old

· Next assumed prophet 15 years old

· Next assumed prophet 7 and half years old…and so on.

So according to the extract on page 17 taken from “Invitation to Ahamadiyyat” Hazrat Adam (mph) should have lived upto 122880 years. Which means that he is still alive. In fact even Hazrat Sheesh, Noah, Abrahim and Ismail (pt) should all be alive now. FURTHER, if Mirza Sahib is a prophet, he should have died at the age of 30 only, that is half the age of the previous Prophet. Did Mirza Sahib become Prophet after his death? Still more interesting, if Prophets will continue to come, then just a few Prophets down the line we would be having one who is a NEWBORN!! This statement of the Holy Prophet (SAAW), if at all authentic, clearly means that there will no Prophet after Hazrat Mohammad (SAW) because the next Prophet will have to die at the age of 30 and the next at 15 which means he will not even be an adult.

Allah is the light of the heavens and the earth. Peace be upon Hazrat Muhammad. May Allah grant light to all of us.
Comments by Religious Scholars
Maulana Muhamad Yusuf Ludhianvi, Chief Editor of Urdu Weekly Khatm-e-Nubuwat, Karachi Pakistan was so highly impressed by the article that he said: "I tried to make my book like your article"; he even gave a reward to affirm his appreciation for times to come.

I gave my article to Hazrat Bashir Ahmad Shah Jamali, Mufti of Jamia Atta-ul Uloom, Shah Jamal, Dera Ghazi Khan, Pakistan. After 3 or 4 days, he said: Religious scholars have written many books on this subject, but your article is from Allah. Mirza Ghulam Ahmad’s book "Anjam Atham" with the help of which Mirza Ghulam Ahmad’s claim of being a Nabi, Promised Messiah and Imam Mahdi has been conclusively proved wrong, the publication date of this book is 22/1/1897. The date on our earth when Hazrat Bashir Ahmed Shah Jamali said "Your article is from Allah" was 22/1/1997. One century complete from Mirza sahib's claim, no difference of year, month, or day: one exact century. I replied: "Your comment was also from Allah". He was very happy.

Dr. Syed Rashid Ali (MRCP) is the head of the Dept. of Medicine, Dibba Hospital, Dibba Al-Fujairah, United Arab Emirates. He is the honorary Secretary of "Anjuman-e-Muhibban-Mustafa" whose branches are working in at least 5 countries. He took permission on the phone and put this article on the Internet.

Qari Muhammad Yar Farooqi, the Imam of Muhammadi Masjid, street no.4, Bath Island, Karachi, said: "Allah has done through you what He did not do through ulemas. For you I pray everyday taking your name.

Maulana Abdul Shakoor who teaches in "Jamia Anwarul Islam" said: This article must be included in the syllabus of the Madrasahs.

Mr. Hanif Motiwala who is doing research on Ahmadism / Qadianism since 1968 said: "I never got such a wonderful point". He has himself written a number of articles about Ahmadism / Qadianism. He has acclaimed my article as "Moajjaza of Khatm-e-Nabuwat" and has written an article in this regard which has been printed in several magazines.

On 2/3/1998, I (Illias Suttar) accompanied by Sarwar Rao, Chief Editor, Monthly Newsnet (International), Karachi, went to Al Noor Hall in Gulberg, Karachi, which is the prayer place (mosque) of Ahmadis / Qadianis). I met the Imam Sahib whose name is Mr. Dawood. I asked him to start a case in any supreme court to prove wrong the points of my article. He replied that "We do not recognise the judges of the earth. We have left the decision (on Illias Suttar’s article) in the Hands of the Judge in the sky"!

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