Ali Rizvi - Ex-Muslims are dragging the Muslim world into the enlightenment era

03-10-2019 21:15 diva_2620#1
#AwesomeWithoutAllah #ExMuslim #AtheistMuslim


Ignore the video and read this Lol.. By some Hindu I think :^)


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@rajrathodsingh I have read a lot about it and frankly it's confusing as shit. No wonder our people didn't develop weapons and technology. The foundations are not strong. Some descriptions of some aspect of the universe is not enough. It has to be methodical. It has to make sense to somebody who wants to learn. Ravana had a helicopter. What powered this helicopter. Where are the engine/powerplant descriptions. The blueprints for manufacturing this. Any armaments. Bombs . Missiles.
If we were so smart how come some barbarians from the Arabian desert take over Hindustan. How could some soldiers from a country far away come by boat and create a colony. Why didn't they blow up every ship on the horizon?

I'll tell you the problem. It's karma. It's fear of killing. Fear of some repercussion in another life. A scare tactic to make sure people don't kill each other. That's all it is.


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chocobonita
2 hours ago
@chaitra k.r what it spirit? Its Latin for breath. When a person dies his breath leaves his body. This is now known as the spirit leaving the body. There is no real thing called spirit of soul. There is your conscience and it goes if you damage your brain. Your heart will beat and you are alive and so what now? Your spirit is still with your body or not? This woo woo language used by Deepak Chopra and other charlatans like him only confuse people and fool them into giving up money and staying pacifist.

04-10-2019 00:23 KALKI#2
I REPLIED TO THE COMMENT YOU PASTEDABOVE...
HE'S REPLY IS IN BLUE && THE SCREEN SHOT.

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Vedic Samara Sutradhara is a scientific
treatises dealing with every possible
facet of air travel in a vimana.
There are 230 stanzas dealing with
construction and flight details of such aircraft.

Jalayan - A vehicle designed to operate in
air and water. (Rig Veda 6.58.3)

Kaara - A vehicle that operates on ground
and in water. (Rig Veda 9.14.1)Tritala - A vehicle consisting of three stories.
(Rig Veda

3.14.1)Trichakra Ratha - A three-wheeled vehicle
designed to operate in the air. (Rig Veda 4.36.1)

Vaayu Ratha - A gas or wind-powered chariot.
(Rig Veda 5.41.6)

Vidyut Ratha - A vehicle that operates on power.
(Rig Veda 3.14.1)

SOURCE: Technology of the Gods: The Incredible Sciences of the Ancients
by David Hatcher Childress - 2000 - ‎Science
ISBN-10: 0932813739
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Technology-.../dp/0932813739

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QUOTE:
'What powered this helicopter. Where are the engine/powerplant descriptions. The blueprints for manufacturing this. Any armaments. Bombs .
Missiles. '
= BLUEPRINTS ARE AVAILABLE. THE QUESTION IS, HOW DO THEY RECONSTRUCT SUCH DEVICES.

THE GREAT OPPENHEIMER MENTIONS VEDIC ATOMIC WEAPONS.

SO HAVE MANY OTHER ACADEMICS / SCHOLARS...
...&& YOU CLAIM THAT YOU HAVE READ? I THINK NOT.
...AS OTHERS HAVE STATED, ATHEISM IS ALLOWED.
REJECTION OF GOD IS ALLOWED.
REJECTION OF RITUALS IS ALLOWED.
REJECTION OF SCRIPTURES IS ALLOWED.
THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS A EX-HINDU.



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chocobonita QUOTE: 'If we were so smart how come some barbarians from the Arabian desert take over Hindustan.'

USE SOME LOGIC. INDIA WAS NOT CONQUERED OVER NIGHT.
A GRADUAL PROCESS.
SOME HINDUS WERE TRAITORS.
MANY HINDU KINGS / QUEENS FOUGHT BACK, SOME VICTORIOUS, SOME FAILED.
MANY ARABS ALSO FAILED.

- 724–760CE Lalitaditya Muktapida (most powerful ruler of the Karkota dynasty of Kashmir).
- 725CE Bappa Rawal (fought invading Islamic armies). Powerful ruler.
661-712AD Raja Dahir Sen (Last Hindu king of Sindh). Islamic Caliphate attacks India.
- 879–1026 Hindu Shahi (rulers of Afghanistan, Kabul Valley , fought invading Islamic armies).
- 945-1297 Solanki dynasty (show down” between Gujarat’s Solanki Kings, fought Mohammed Ghuri Invasion).
-1382–1421 Lakha Singh (he defeated the imperial army of Delhi led by Sultan Firuz Shah Tughlaq 1309–1388).
1556 Hemchandra Vikramaditya defeated Mughal Akbar’s forces. 350 years of foreign Islamic rule ended. Re-established native Hindu rule.
Battle of Tughlaqabad 1556 Hemchandra Vikramaditya, who took possession of Delhi && defeated the Mughals. Following his failure, Tardi Beg

LEARN SOME HISTORY, BEFORE YOU TALK OUT YOUR AS_S

HIS RESPONSE:

yeah but every aviation/flight school in the world talks about the wright brothers and Aerodynamics as explained by European standards.

We know about Ravana's helicopter because we are from Hindu families but this isn't common knowledge around the world.
Also if the info exists as you say then why hasn't anybody recreated it since those days. Are all the Hindus so stupid that they can't

figure it out?? Or is it that the info is severely lacking in proper methodology?? A few descriptions isn't enough. There needs to be

dimensions and angles. Wingspan. Angle of attack. Etc etc.
I feel like you have a very strong emotional response to my criticism of Hinduism. Ask yourself why that is? My issues with the Vedic

texts is not an attack on you personally. Practise some upeksha. Lol
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HAVE YOU STUDIED THE VEDIC SAMARA SUTRADHARA IN DETAIL? BLUE PRINTS, DIAGRAMS? DIMENSIONS, ANGLES ...IT'S ALL THERE.
THE BOOK I PASTED IS WRITTEN BY SOME WESTERN DUDE...MENTIONED BY FEW OTHERS, SUTRADHARA...

YOU PROBABLY WATCHED THE MOVIE "BLACK PANTHER" AND THOUGHT, WHERE IS OUR MAGIC VEDIC "WAKANDA"..

HOW DO YOU EXPECT KNOWLEDGE TO CIRCULATE WHEN HINDUS THEMSELVES WERE NOT TAUGHT SUCH THINGS DURING THE MUGHAL PERIOD?
DURING COLONIZATION'S, CHRISTIAN MISSIONARIES SPENT YEARS TARGETING HINDUS.
COLONIZATION OF GOA; IT WAS A CRIME TO PRACTICE HINDUISM. HINDUS WERE LYNCHED AND BURNT ALIVE FOR 50 YEARS. FOR PRACTICING HINDUISM.

DO THOSE HINDUS WORRY ABOUT THEIR EXISTENCE OR SPREADING KNOWLEDGE?

YOU KEEP FORGETTING THAT INDIA WAS IN DEFENSIVE /OFFENSIVE MODE FOR 800 YEARS.
REPELLING INVADERS && COLONIST.

HOW DO YOU RE-BUILD VEDIC HERITAGE? RE-EDUCATE? WHEN LIBRARIES ARE DESTROYED?
RESTRUCTURING ?
WHAT ABOUT THE PSYCHOLOGICAL DAMAGE? MUGHAL SUPERIORITY WHICH HINDERED THE HINDU MINDSET?
...COLONIAL SUPERIORITY?

EVEN TODAY REVIVALIST EXIST, BUT THEY ARE TARNISHED AS RSS / HINDUVTA OR ARYA SAMAJ STOOGES..
OR SOME OTHER NONSENSE..

HINDUS THEMSELVES HAVE A DUTY TO SHARE KNOWLEDGE, WHO ARE YOU RELYING ON? THE GOVERNMENT? SOME YOGA TEACHER? SOME IDIOT LIKE DEEPAK


CHOPRA? ..AND YEH I AGREE, HE IS A DOOFUS!

IF YOU GENUINELY HAD ANY BELIEFS, YOU'D RESEARCH FOR YOURSELF, RECREATE AND CIRCULATE MATERIAL...IF YOU'RE EXPECTING SOME 'AKASH VANI' TO

GUIDE YOU, THEN THINK AGAIN...AS A HINDU, YOU ARE ALLOWED TO REJECT THE BHAGAVAD GITA AS THE WORD OF GOD...CHRISTIANS && MUSLIMS DO NOT

HAVE THAT LUXURY (as per their book).

LEGENDARY NEIL BOHR, WROTE THAT HE 'DIGS INTO THE VEDAS WHEN HE HAS QUESTIONS', PHYSICIST FRITJOF CAPRA WAS MESMERIZED BY VEDIC

PHILOSOPHY...NEITHER OF THEM A HINDU....OPPENHEIMER WAS AN ATHEIST, YET HE MASTERED SANSKRIT && KEPT A COPY OF THE BHAGAVAD GITA WITH HIM.

QUOTE:
'I feel like you have a very strong emotional response to my criticism of Hinduism.'

NOT OFFENDED, WHETHER YOU SPEW YOUR HATE, RIDICULE, REJECT, OR WHATEVER...HAS NO IMPACT...
...I'VE HEARD ALL THESE STATEMENTS BEFORE. NOTHING NEW.

SAT HERE READING COMMENTS,
I THOUGHT...THIS IS THE SORRY STATE OF CERTAIN HINDUS,
WHO DON'T EVEN KNOW THEIR OWN HISTORY... THOSE BRAVE VICTORIOUS HINDU KINGS, COMBATING INVADERS ARE NEVER SPOKEN OF...
THEN I THOUGHT, WHY HAS NO-ONE MENTIONED THE "SUTRADHARA"....
HAD SOMEONE MENTIONED "SUTRADHARA", I WOULD NOT HAVE RESPONDED.
I CAN PROVIDE YOU COUNTLESS DOCUMENTS...
HOWEVER, WOULD BE POINTLESS.

I WILL DROP SOME NOTES, CONFIRMING THE ABOVE. DIG AROUND IF IT INTERESTS YOU.
...KNOWLEDGE IS FREE FLOWING, WE DON'T ALL HAVE THE

ANSWERS...TOMORROW SPACE ALIENS COULD LAND AND DEBUNK EVERYTHING, WE DON'T KNOW.

IT'S YOUR LIFE, YOUR RULES.

05-10-2019 15:00 Amrita#3
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Originally Posted by KALKI »

I REPLIED TO THE COMMENT YOU PASTEDABOVE...
HE'S REPLY IS IN BLUE && THE SCREEN SHOT.

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Vedic Samara Sutradhara is a scientific
treatises dealing with every possible
facet of air travel in a vimana.
There are 230 stanzas dealing with
construction and flight details of such aircraft.

Jalayan - A vehicle designed to operate in
air and water. (Rig Veda 6.58.3)

Kaara - A vehicle that operates on ground
and in water. (Rig Veda 9.14.1)Tritala - A vehicle consisting of three stories.
(Rig Veda

3.14.1)Trichakra Ratha - A three-wheeled vehicle
designed to operate in the air. (Rig Veda 4.36.1)

Vaayu Ratha - A gas or wind-powered chariot.
(Rig Veda 5.41.6)

Vidyut Ratha - A vehicle that operates on power.
(Rig Veda 3.14.1)

SOURCE: Technology of the Gods: The Incredible Sciences of the Ancients
by David Hatcher Childress - 2000 - ‎Science
ISBN-10: 0932813739
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Technology-.../dp/0932813739

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QUOTE:
'What powered this helicopter. Where are the engine/powerplant descriptions. The blueprints for manufacturing this. Any armaments. Bombs .
Missiles. '
= BLUEPRINTS ARE AVAILABLE. THE QUESTION IS, HOW DO THEY RECONSTRUCT SUCH DEVICES.

THE GREAT OPPENHEIMER MENTIONS VEDIC ATOMIC WEAPONS.

SO HAVE MANY OTHER ACADEMICS / SCHOLARS...
...&& YOU CLAIM THAT YOU HAVE READ? I THINK NOT.
...AS OTHERS HAVE STATED, ATHEISM IS ALLOWED.
REJECTION OF GOD IS ALLOWED.
REJECTION OF RITUALS IS ALLOWED.
REJECTION OF SCRIPTURES IS ALLOWED.
THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS A EX-HINDU.



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chocobonita QUOTE: 'If we were so smart how come some barbarians from the Arabian desert take over Hindustan.'

USE SOME LOGIC. INDIA WAS NOT CONQUERED OVER NIGHT.
A GRADUAL PROCESS.
SOME HINDUS WERE TRAITORS.
MANY HINDU KINGS / QUEENS FOUGHT BACK, SOME VICTORIOUS, SOME FAILED.
MANY ARABS ALSO FAILED.

- 724–760CE Lalitaditya Muktapida (most powerful ruler of the Karkota dynasty of Kashmir).
- 725CE Bappa Rawal (fought invading Islamic armies). Powerful ruler.
661-712AD Raja Dahir Sen (Last Hindu king of Sindh). Islamic Caliphate attacks India.
- 879–1026 Hindu Shahi (rulers of Afghanistan, Kabul Valley , fought invading Islamic armies).
- 945-1297 Solanki dynasty (show down” between Gujarat’s Solanki Kings, fought Mohammed Ghuri Invasion).
-1382–1421 Lakha Singh (he defeated the imperial army of Delhi led by Sultan Firuz Shah Tughlaq 1309–1388).
1556 Hemchandra Vikramaditya defeated Mughal Akbar’s forces. 350 years of foreign Islamic rule ended. Re-established native Hindu rule.
Battle of Tughlaqabad 1556 Hemchandra Vikramaditya, who took possession of Delhi && defeated the Mughals. Following his failure, Tardi Beg

LEARN SOME HISTORY, BEFORE YOU TALK OUT YOUR AS_S

HIS RESPONSE:

yeah but every aviation/flight school in the world talks about the wright brothers and Aerodynamics as explained by European standards.

We know about Ravana's helicopter because we are from Hindu families but this isn't common knowledge around the world.
Also if the info exists as you say then why hasn't anybody recreated it since those days. Are all the Hindus so stupid that they can't

figure it out?? Or is it that the info is severely lacking in proper methodology?? A few descriptions isn't enough. There needs to be

dimensions and angles. Wingspan. Angle of attack. Etc etc.
I feel like you have a very strong emotional response to my criticism of Hinduism. Ask yourself why that is? My issues with the Vedic

texts is not an attack on you personally. Practise some upeksha. Lol
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HAVE YOU STUDIED THE VEDIC SAMARA SUTRADHARA IN DETAIL? BLUE PRINTS, DIAGRAMS? DIMENSIONS, ANGLES ...IT'S ALL THERE.
THE BOOK I PASTED IS WRITTEN BY SOME WESTERN DUDE...MENTIONED BY FEW OTHERS, SUTRADHARA...

YOU PROBABLY WATCHED THE MOVIE "BLACK PANTHER" AND THOUGHT, WHERE IS OUR MAGIC VEDIC "WAKANDA"..

HOW DO YOU EXPECT KNOWLEDGE TO CIRCULATE WHEN HINDUS THEMSELVES WERE NOT TAUGHT SUCH THINGS DURING THE MUGHAL PERIOD?
DURING COLONIZATION'S, CHRISTIAN MISSIONARIES SPENT YEARS TARGETING HINDUS.
COLONIZATION OF GOA; IT WAS A CRIME TO PRACTICE HINDUISM. HINDUS WERE LYNCHED AND BURNT ALIVE FOR 50 YEARS. FOR PRACTICING HINDUISM.

DO THOSE HINDUS WORRY ABOUT THEIR EXISTENCE OR SPREADING KNOWLEDGE?

YOU KEEP FORGETTING THAT INDIA WAS IN DEFENSIVE /OFFENSIVE MODE FOR 800 YEARS.
REPELLING INVADERS && COLONIST.

HOW DO YOU RE-BUILD VEDIC HERITAGE? RE-EDUCATE? WHEN LIBRARIES ARE DESTROYED?
RESTRUCTURING ?
WHAT ABOUT THE PSYCHOLOGICAL DAMAGE? MUGHAL SUPERIORITY WHICH HINDERED THE HINDU MINDSET?
...COLONIAL SUPERIORITY?

EVEN TODAY REVIVALIST EXIST, BUT THEY ARE TARNISHED AS RSS / HINDUVTA OR ARYA SAMAJ STOOGES..
OR SOME OTHER NONSENSE..

HINDUS THEMSELVES HAVE A DUTY TO SHARE KNOWLEDGE, WHO ARE YOU RELYING ON? THE GOVERNMENT? SOME YOGA TEACHER? SOME IDIOT LIKE DEEPAK


CHOPRA? ..AND YEH I AGREE, HE IS A DOOFUS!

IF YOU GENUINELY HAD ANY BELIEFS, YOU'D RESEARCH FOR YOURSELF, RECREATE AND CIRCULATE MATERIAL...IF YOU'RE EXPECTING SOME 'AKASH VANI' TO

GUIDE YOU, THEN THINK AGAIN...AS A HINDU, YOU ARE ALLOWED TO REJECT THE BHAGAVAD GITA AS THE WORD OF GOD...CHRISTIANS && MUSLIMS DO NOT

HAVE THAT LUXURY (as per their book).

LEGENDARY NEIL BOHR, WROTE THAT HE 'DIGS INTO THE VEDAS WHEN HE HAS QUESTIONS', PHYSICIST FRITJOF CAPRA WAS MESMERIZED BY VEDIC

PHILOSOPHY...NEITHER OF THEM A HINDU....OPPENHEIMER WAS AN ATHEIST, YET HE MASTERED SANSKRIT && KEPT A COPY OF THE BHAGAVAD GITA WITH HIM.

QUOTE:
'I feel like you have a very strong emotional response to my criticism of Hinduism.'

NOT OFFENDED, WHETHER YOU SPEW YOUR HATE, RIDICULE, REJECT, OR WHATEVER...HAS NO IMPACT...
...I'VE HEARD ALL THESE STATEMENTS BEFORE. NOTHING NEW.

SAT HERE READING COMMENTS,
I THOUGHT...THIS IS THE SORRY STATE OF CERTAIN HINDUS,
WHO DON'T EVEN KNOW THEIR OWN HISTORY... THOSE BRAVE VICTORIOUS HINDU KINGS, COMBATING INVADERS ARE NEVER SPOKEN OF...
THEN I THOUGHT, WHY HAS NO-ONE MENTIONED THE "SUTRADHARA"....
HAD SOMEONE MENTIONED "SUTRADHARA", I WOULD NOT HAVE RESPONDED.
I CAN PROVIDE YOU COUNTLESS DOCUMENTS...
HOWEVER, WOULD BE POINTLESS.

I WILL DROP SOME NOTES, CONFIRMING THE ABOVE. DIG AROUND IF IT INTERESTS YOU.
...KNOWLEDGE IS FREE FLOWING, WE DON'T ALL HAVE THE

ANSWERS...TOMORROW SPACE ALIENS COULD LAND AND DEBUNK EVERYTHING, WE DON'T KNOW.

IT'S YOUR LIFE, YOUR RULES.

Very good point!!

Niels Bohr was an atheist
05-10-2019 15:01 Amrita#4
Niels Henrik David Bohr was a Danish physicist who made foundational contributions to ..... Some of Bohr's biographers suggested that this disagreement stemmed from Kierkegaard's advocacy of Christianity, while Bohr was an atheist.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niels_Bohr
13-10-2019 04:20 BulletProofYogi#5
Check this:

There are very few number of Atheist here in Nepal. Its only 51 people counted till date with refrence to atheistcensus.com. Well , i am proud of myself because i believe in myself rather then so called god. I am proud that i am an atheist, because i believe being an atheist is itself a matter of great achievment. And i am really greatful for the people like Richard Dawkins who helped me to gain this level of thoughts and attitude. Well, where i find a problem being atheist is that i am incircled by all the religious people specially hindu….Actually its not a problem living with these people but with the point they raise against atheism, Sometimes they are so Scientific i can't answer them and how could a religion be Scientific??? They talk about Veds and all those Historic figure and facts. I need to oppose them strongly and i don't have any answer to their Question. So i request "Richard Dawkins Foundation for Reason and Science" to explain all those non-sense, orthodox and hoax related to hinduism. Could you please be more Specific about Hindu religion too. I can answer the Question raised by Christian and Islam but not by Hindu….Please help me.

https://www.richarddawkins.net/2013/...indu-religion/
02-12-2019 03:39 balti#6
They don't really know much about Hinduism apart from the caste system, dowry and sati stereotypes.
They view religion through an Abrahamic perspective.
02-12-2019 03:40 balti#7
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Originally Posted by Amrita »

Niels Henrik David Bohr was a Danish physicist who made foundational contributions to ..... Some of Bohr's biographers suggested that this disagreement stemmed from Kierkegaard's advocacy of Christianity, while Bohr was an atheist.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niels_Bohr

Majority Indians have no idea who Niels Henrik David Bohr was :^)