Can we be Good without believing in God?

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27-08-2012 11:14 Silvia#11
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Originally Posted by Sh4rp_Sh00ter »

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Originally Posted by MrFitUk »

you dont see air yet u breathe it in every day and never question ?

selfish much ?

There is a god hence why they call it a test of life in Islam.

Peace.


have yew seen god? has he shaked yur hand?

what can yew see around yew today that god has created?

buildings - man

cars - man

technology - man

computers - man

houses - man

it is faith!!
however, who has created you/your mother etc?
and earth?
and universe?
infinite?
do you think the answer is 'man'?

however, I have no problems if you do not believe in God....
you can think what you want because your life is yours.....you can believe in science.....in morality and rules to keep the peace around the world...
29-08-2012 17:26 dolophine#12
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jeezuzzz !!
his off his hed!
dude wha yew taking??? haha
i dunt knw if systems like that exists for objectiv good..
caveman that lived in caves they used to be scared of lighting..
for most these dudes lighting was gods wrath of revengence
a high being ready to punish them
well obviously cavemen were a bunch of nonces who had no idea of what god is...living in fear of lighting makes them do things morally good

an there is no god!

your simian brain will not understand lol. you don't know if systems like that exist? wow ofcourse because you worship your TV GOD and the almighty google god where you posted your article from.

can you produce anything from your own anthropoid of a brain? instead of copy and paste skills.

are you waiting for me to whisper esoteric knowledge in your manpanzee ears.

only system you know about is your omnibenevolent government that teaches you to become a slave , why are you rabbling on about cave men? pft


wtfff :@

why yew hating on me yew nonce!
cavemen did not need a god
get the point?

oh you're talking about evolution now? who said cavemen were moral? they ate other peoples flesh would you do that nowadays? your point is flawed and invalid.

who gave that ''will'' for abiogenesis to occur? and evolution is just about how you get life from life...doesn't explain what came before?so your whole point of cavemen didn't need god still doesn't make sense.

what scientists do is get evidence test it for example fossils...carbon dating.. all that process but then apply links logic to come up with a theory that x y z may have happnd. It's all guess work still..
so your speculation about cavemen is just all theorised. doesn't mean it's the complete truth.
29-08-2012 18:50 DeAth_St4r#13
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Originally Posted by dolophine »

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your simian brain will not understand lol. you don't know if systems like that exist? wow ofcourse because you worship your TV GOD and the almighty google god where you posted your article from.

can you produce anything from your own anthropoid of a brain? instead of copy and paste skills.

are you waiting for me to whisper esoteric knowledge in your manpanzee ears.

only system you know about is your omnibenevolent government that teaches you to become a slave , why are you rabbling on about cave men? pft


wtfff :@

why yew hating on me yew nonce!
cavemen did not need a god
get the point?

oh you're talking about evolution now? who said cavemen were moral? they ate other peoples flesh would you do that nowadays? your point is flawed and invalid.

who gave that ''will'' for abiogenesis to occur? and evolution is just about how you get life from life...doesn't explain what came before?so your whole point of cavemen didn't need god still doesn't make sense.

what scientists do is get evidence test it for example fossils...carbon dating.. all that process but then apply links logic to come up with a theory that x y z may have happnd. It's all guess work still..
so your speculation about cavemen is just all theorised. doesn't mean it's the complete truth.


dude even if cavemen existed why did god create man as a caveman first?

why didnt god make cavemen a bit superior as they are today?

cavemen did exist ...fact!

adam and eve did not exist , cavemen were the first humans
29-08-2012 20:29 dolophine#14
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wtfff :@

why yew hating on me yew nonce!
cavemen did not need a god
get the point?

oh you're talking about evolution now? who said cavemen were moral? they ate other peoples flesh would you do that nowadays? your point is flawed and invalid.

who gave that ''will'' for abiogenesis to occur? and evolution is just about how you get life from life...doesn't explain what came before?so your whole point of cavemen didn't need god still doesn't make sense.

what scientists do is get evidence test it for example fossils...carbon dating.. all that process but then apply links logic to come up with a theory that x y z may have happnd. It's all guess work still..
so your speculation about cavemen is just all theorised. doesn't mean it's the complete truth.


dude even if cavemen existed why did god create man as a caveman first?

why didnt god make cavemen a bit superior as they are today?

cavemen did exist ...fact!

adam and eve did not exist , cavemen were the first humans


Actually in some religions there is no account of at what stage the 1st human was created... christianity talks about stages i don't think islam does in great detail. instead there are many talks on how other creatures roamed the earth way before adam. : - )

lol@ fact like i said it's just assumptions logic.. based on evidence. and..er it's a stock character to some lol.
30-08-2012 13:54 KALKI#15
I DON'T BELIEVE THAT YOU MUST FOLLOW GOD IN ORDER TO DO ANY TYPE OF GOOD IN THIS WORLD..

SUBJECTIVELY YOU CAN FOLLOW ANY RELIGIOUS PATH, BUT IT DOESN'T DICTATE THAT YOU WILL BECOME A BETTER PERSON UPON DOING SO...
FIREMAN, AMBULANCE PERSONALS ..CHARITY WORKERS...MANY PEOPLE FROM SUCH BACKGROUNDS HAVE NO RELIGIOUS BACKGROUNDS

YET THEY DO GOOD.. FOR THE WIDER COMMUNITY...THEY DO SUCH THINGS WITHOUT HESITATION...WITH NO EXPECTATION OR REWARD FROM GOD

YET MANY WORSHIPPERS WHO DO FOLLOW GOD..DO SO FOR SOME KIND OF REWARD...

FOR EXAMPLE...IF I HELP SOMEONE TODAY OR IF I SPREAD MY FAITH..
GOD WILL REWARD ME IN HEAVEN...THIS IS GREED...DOING THINGS FOR SOMETHING IN RETURN..8-)

YET MANY WHO DON'T BELIEVE IN GOD...WHAT KIND OF REWARD DO THEY SEEK? FAME? GLORY?

GOD IS NOT THERE TO GIVE US BROWNIE POINTS OR REWARDS LIKE A PUPPY..IF HE DOES IT WOULD BE HIS KINDNESS...

BEING A BETTER HUMAN BEING DOESNT REQUIRE US TO BE RELIGIOUS...(:o)
31-08-2012 14:53 Flyin-Pixie#16
havent read the article but short and simple answer to this question is - YES! (Y)

people do good things from the kindness of their heart
01-09-2012 20:23 MrFitUk#17
i can honestly not be good without faith.

its when after praying my heart becomes softer thus i can carry on my charming good ways.

so faith plays a vital role in our life to establish us as better people i believe.

to each their own.

peace.
04-09-2012 02:13 Nadia#18
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Originally Posted by KALKI »

I DON'T BELIEVE THAT YOU MUST FOLLOW GOD IN ORDER TO DO ANY TYPE OF GOOD IN THIS WORLD..

SUBJECTIVELY YOU CAN FOLLOW ANY RELIGIOUS PATH, BUT IT DOESN'T DICTATE THAT YOU WILL BECOME A BETTER PERSON UPON DOING SO...
FIREMAN, AMBULANCE PERSONALS ..CHARITY WORKERS...MANY PEOPLE FROM SUCH BACKGROUNDS HAVE NO RELIGIOUS BACKGROUNDS

YET THEY DO GOOD.. FOR THE WIDER COMMUNITY...THEY DO SUCH THINGS WITHOUT HESITATION...WITH NO EXPECTATION OR REWARD FROM GOD

YET MANY WORSHIPPERS WHO DO FOLLOW GOD..DO SO FOR SOME KIND OF REWARD...

FOR EXAMPLE...IF I HELP SOMEONE TODAY OR IF I SPREAD MY FAITH..
GOD WILL REWARD ME IN HEAVEN...THIS IS GREED...DOING THINGS FOR SOMETHING IN RETURN..8-)

YET MANY WHO DON'T BELIEVE IN GOD...WHAT KIND OF REWARD DO THEY SEEK? FAME? GLORY?

GOD IS NOT THERE TO GIVE US BROWNIE POINTS OR REWARDS LIKE A PUPPY..IF HE DOES IT WOULD BE HIS KINDNESS...

BEING A BETTER HUMAN BEING DOESNT REQUIRE US TO BE RELIGIOUS...(:o)

Soooo true!!!!!

It's hard to get people to overcome the thought that they have to take care of themselves first.
It is a great attribute to strive for and most selfless people are thought of kind people!!
04-09-2012 02:22 DeAth_St4r#19
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Originally Posted by MrFitUk »

i can honestly not be good without faith.

its when after praying my heart becomes softer thus i can carry on my charming good ways.

so faith plays a vital role in our life to establish us as better people i believe.

to each their own.

peace.

like..without god you feel weak?
04-09-2012 02:26 DeAth_St4r#20
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Originally Posted by dolophine »

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oh you're talking about evolution now? who said cavemen were moral? they ate other peoples flesh would you do that nowadays? your point is flawed and invalid.

who gave that ''will'' for abiogenesis to occur? and evolution is just about how you get life from life...doesn't explain what came before?so your whole point of cavemen didn't need god still doesn't make sense.

what scientists do is get evidence test it for example fossils...carbon dating.. all that process but then apply links logic to come up with a theory that x y z may have happnd. It's all guess work still..
so your speculation about cavemen is just all theorised. doesn't mean it's the complete truth.


dude even if cavemen existed why did god create man as a caveman first?

why didnt god make cavemen a bit superior as they are today?

cavemen did exist ...fact!

adam and eve did not exist , cavemen were the first humans


Actually in some religions there is no account of at what stage the 1st human was created... christianity talks about stages i don't think islam does in great detail. instead there are many talks on how other creatures roamed the earth way before adam. : - )

lol@ fact like i said it's just assumptions logic.. based on evidence. and..er it's a stock character to some lol.


bare evidence bout how humans came from reptiles!
what religions hs real proof???
none dunt!
christiiantity tlks about floods...well how did 1000's of dinosaurs get flooded away?
makes no sense dude lol

islam says adam was first man??
bloody hell..if he was first man then how did cave men evolve from primitive manz to society as we hve today ???

who taught adam how to live? he was ready made human? mkes no sense
who taught cavemen to make wheels?
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